Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
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It's been quite some time since the tin soldiers and Woodstock, and "Judy Blue Eyes" is a suite 31 years old. But that's not stopping David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham Nash, and Neil Young from heading out on the road together for the first time since 1974. The jaunt is ostensibly to promote the superstar quartet's new album, Looking Forward, but the four musicians say it's also to celebrate their three decades of friendship and creative collaboration, which began in the glow of the Woodstock Nation and which subsequently launched rock's singer-songwriter movement of the early '70s. This is also the most action we've seen out of these four together in quite some time; never prolific, they've managed to record just three studio albums and a live set in 30 years. Their last release — 1988's American Dream was made solely to fulfill a promise Young made to Crosby if the latter cleaned up and got his act together. But thanks to enduring songs such as "Our House," "Teach Your Children," "Carry On," "Woodstock," and "Ohio," CSNY has remained very much a part of the rock zeitgeist, achieving an almost mythic stature, which makes the current reunion such a big deal. The CSNY2K tour kicks off Jan. 24 at the Palace of Auburn Hills outside Detroit, and the members of CSNY — together and separately — say that after having wasted plenty of time, they fully intend to turn this into a more consistently active partnership than it's ever been.

The current CSNY project came about after Stephen and Neil were working on the Buffalo Springfield box set, and Stephen asked Neil to come to Los Angeles to play on the new CSN record. What happened there to make it a CSNY album?
Neil Young: I came into the studio and discovered that they were in here working on a record by themselves, and they weren't using a record company. They had to finance it themselves, so obviously they were really into it. That's the only real good reason to play music. So it was just a good feeling again; it was three guys who have been making music together for 30 years, and they still want to do it enough to take out bank loans or whatever. That's why someone would want to be involved in that energy. It was all positive, and the music was really great.

Graham Nash: Once Neil saw our situation and heard the music, it was much more enticing for him to get involved. He knew we wanted to be there because we had music to make.

This is a group that's famous for its arguments and ego battles. What's different this time around?
David Crosby: It's much better, for a number of reasons. One, there's no chemical baggage. And two, we're much better guys. None of us stomps off in a huff. If we have two opinions about something, we stand there and treat each other with respect. We talk about it and work it out, which we never would've done in the past. The standard move back then was to say, "Ah, f--k these guys," and walk off. That's never happened the whole time we've been together now, not once — not even close. There's been respect and care and a really honest try to give each guy his worth and his value and his place and his support.

Nash: If one of us has an idea, we'll chase it until it either works or it doesn't. Previously we would have discounted ideas, and that's where you get into trouble, because we're all good at making records. We've been doing this for 30 or 40 years, so we should be listened to. Everyone who makes their suggestions should feel that we at least tried, and that's all you can ask.

Stephen Stills: There was more listening going on than since the first record. No agendas, no tricks. We realized early on that the ridiculous kid games we used to play with each other that would end up crashing sessions were really hysterically funny and Pavlovian. Very kids-in-the-sandbox-chewing-on-each-other and just beyond belief.

Young: It used to be if someone was singing flat or something, Crosby would get on Stephen's case and Graham and David, being better than Stephen, let him know that, "Hey, we're faster than you and this is f--ked. Why aren't you ready?" Now they realize everybody has their own speed to go at, and that it's worth waiting for Stephen to gets the part right, and that it's better if they all do it together. And with me it's even worse, because I take longer than Stephen.

Why have you been able to achieve what seems like a more cohesive reunion now and not for American Dream back in '88?
Nash: The feeling between us then wasn't as good as it is today. I don't think we had the commitment. I think we had the commitment from Neil because he had promised David, but unfortunately it takes more than that to make a great piece of music. There are some great songs on American Dream, and we were very proud of that record. But there's also some funky songs, too, songs that maybe should not have been there.

After 27 years, what's the show going to be like?
Crosby: I think it's probably going to start with an electric set of about an hour, maybe a little more, and then we'll take a break and come back acoustic for another hour, and then move from that into a closing electric set of probably an hour. And we do stretch out, we are a jam band. We stretch on "Down by the River," "No Tears Left," "Rockin' in the Free World," "Wooden Ships," "Almost Cut My Hair." There's lots of places to get a little loose. We've got these two insanely good lead guitar players [Young and Stills] who are completely different from each other, but who can really speak to each other with guitars. And, man, when they start talking, I want to listen.

Young: There's a lot of room in our structure for improvising and changing on the fly, which is really what keeps it alive.

Nash: We want to play every song from the new record. And then we want to play a selection of songs that our fans know and love us for. As long as we can make them musically interesting and not a Las Vegas medley, we're going to choose songs that we still mean.

Young: Well, I don't think that I'll be satisfied live to just play Looking Forward, although we're going to do those songs. But we're going to do things from the Buffalo Springfield, and hopefully something from the Hollies and the Byrds, as well as our CSNY repertoire and everything that's new.

Crosby: Jesus, man, you know, we have so much stuff — 900 songs between us. Even if you discount the fact that 450 of them are Neil's [laughs], there's still so many songs that you love, that you know. And they're good songs.

When the tour was announced, you spoke about playing songs that weren't recorded for Looking Forward or that have even been written since. Is that indeed going to be the case?
Crosby: Oh, there are songs there that you've never heard before, that nobody's heard before. I guarantee you'll hear some stuff that you've never heard. We're an ongoing process, man. We could finish a song at any given point, and it could be in the show that night. The approach is pretty fearless, as you'd expect with Neil involved. He's Mr. Fearless.

Crosby Stills Nash & Young InterviewYoung: Our energy is going to come from delivering new songs and getting the crowd off, and then doing these things from the past, the ones that we can really rock on, that are still valid for us today, the ones we can mean what we're singing. We don't want to cheerlead a sing-along; we want to sing songs like "Teach Your Children," because every word in it is meaningful and the people out there were moved by what it said in the first place.

Looking Forward hasn't exactly been a sales monster. Do you think there's a place for CSNY in a world of Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, and Kid Rock?
Nash: We don't care. We truly do not care.

Crosby: You've got to remember that we're in the fortunate position of not having to worry about whether we're going to be a success or not. We judge our success on how well the song went down, how well the music happened. We don't need to wonder if we sell records or tickets or if we have to paint ourselves blue and wear Maori headdresses. We're not in competition with any of that other stuff. But there is an audience for us. There's a huge audience for us.

Stills: One of the more delightful things in my life has been that each of my children, who range from 31 to 3 years old, each one of them gets to a certain age, about 11 or 12, and they discover our old records and sooner or later they come down and say, "Dad! You guys were hot!"

Nash: What's the point of caring about trying to compete with whatever's out there? We can't do that. All we can be is Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, the best we can be. I hope that's enough, and I really believe it will be.

What about the future?
Crosby: When we started singing in the studio, we didn't say, "Are we making a record?" We never brought it up. We looked at each other and said, "Hmm, let's let the music do this." That's what we're doing. We're letting the music lead the way. If we have a blast doing this, then we'll probably keep doing it.

Young: There's a lot of unfinished business. I don't think we ever really reached our potential, and so we have a lot of things to show and a lot of things to do. That's why it's so exciting; there are things that we started doing on the record that can show us the future. This band can sing like the Byrds and jam like the Dead. Hopefully we can get the audience turned on to what we're doing and have it just be a music thing.

Nash: I don't think anyone's considering anything permanent. We love the new record, we are as excited as s--t to be going on the road to play new music, and we'll take it a day at a time. And if it's all good, if the music's good, and we're getting off and we look at each other at the end of the tour and say, "You know what? That was groovy; let's go to Europe," then great.

Crosby: We're not trying to decide the future now. What we're trying to do now is make sure that when you come to the concert, you get what you came for, that you hear those songs done really well, from the heart.

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