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Cameras,
lights, backdrops and props are ready. Industry types have assumed
their positions. The air is thick with anticipation as we wait
for the stars of todays photo shoot- Orange County rock
band No Doubt to emerge from their secluded dressing room.
First to
appear is charming drummer Adrian Young. Hes clearly at
odds with the loud, colorful ensemble chosen for him. "I
feel like Im wearing some kind of zany Mervyns clothing.
Its like Hey there! Lets go party!"
he jokes, winking and making cheese-guns with his hands. He
is soon joined by bassist Tony Kanal and guitarist Tom Dumont,
both equally uncomfortable in their respective get-ups. The
room begins to buzz with whispers, mumblings and grumblings.
Then singer
Gwen Stefani arrives. All eyes skate across her unbelievable
frame, the sculpted platinum hair and the cherry red lips that
twist and glide into an alluring down-turned smile. Stefani
is a star- the kind that turns heads and stops conversations.
She enjoys the dress-up, the play-acting. She loves the camera
and its a love that is fully reciprocated. Today she is
wearing a minuscule white t-shirt paired with equally form-fitting
orange leather pants, the excess of fabric being held together
by a clamp in the back.
"Jesus,
Gwen, you look like a twig!" Young tells her.
Stefani mulls
over this accusation. "Thats good. I mean, thats
good, right?" she says finally, smiling feebly. Stefani
is a girl and shes not about to apologize for it. And
before you start judging, realize that with one little unassuming
song, shes done more for womens causes than you
ever will.
"Just
a Girl", from No Doubts third album, Tragic Kingdom,
is a catchy new-wave flavored song that proclaims the burdens
of the fairer sex, using the stereotype to point out its own
flaws: "Cause Im just a girl, little ol me/
Dont let me out of your sight/ Im just a girl, all
pretty and petite/ So dont let me have any rights/ Oh...
Ive had it up to here!" The song which by now youve
definitely heard on the radio and which was never meant to be
more than a reflection of Stefanis own frustrating experiences
(such as her fathers concern over her driving to ex-boyfriend
Kanals house late at night), rises to anthem-like proportions
when performed live. Stefani, all pouts, poses, and kicks, leads
the audience in a celebration of girl-hood, and if only for
a little while, the typical foundation on which rock music stands
begins to crumble.
So who is
the real Stefani? Is she the creation strutting about on-stage
speaking in the little girl voice and basking in the sensation
of thousands of eyes washing over her lithe frame? Or is she
the earnest, soft spoken family girl who, according to her younger
sister Jill, "was always giving really good advice about
guys and about friends and about the superficiality of it all"?
"I think
Ive been able to fool a lot of people because I know Im
a dork. Im a geek," says Stefani, giving hope to
geeks nationwide.
"I think
[the on-stage persona] is definitely a part of me, but I dont
think that I go around when Im offstage saying Fuck
you, Im a girl and running all over the place. Its
definitely two sides of my personality."
One wonders
how Stefani manages to keep her energy at such a feverish pitch,
night after night.
"Yesterday
I looked in the mirror and I thought, God, I look so old
today. I look so tired. So I just put on tons of make-up
and screamed up and down the hall to try to get myself worked
up and then I went out there and the audience was so intense
theres just no way you couldnt feed off that. These
kids were just on fire. They looked like a bunch of Rice Krispies!"
No Doubt
formed nine years ago in Anaheim, California, at the suggestion
of high school friend John Spence, a charismatic kid who was
in love with the idea of being in a band and whose subsequent
suicide forced No Doubt to learn to overcome hardship. The initial
line-up included Stefanis older brother Eric on keyboards
(who was to remain in the band as keyboard player and main songwriter
until 95 when he left to pursue a career as an artist),
and Gwen and Spence sharing vocals.
"I never
really thought about being in a band. I mean, maybe when I watched
Donny and Marie I thought, God, I wish I could be Marie,
but that was the closest Id come. John was the one that
said I want to be the singer of a band. That was
his dream," remembers Stefani, whose personal heroes include
Angelo Moore of Fishbone and Kermit the Frog.
"When
your friend dies like that and its so unexpected its
very traumatic. I think it taught us all a big lesson in how
much one person can influence so many different people."
The early
music of No Doubt was "ska, because thats what we
were into and thats the only thing we really knew. It
was pretty easy music to play." But as the line-up began
to solidify, with "Prince fan" Kanal joining almost
immediately, followed by heavy metal guitarist Dumont in 88
and drummer Young in 89, the wide range of styles encompassed
by No Doubt began to emerge, as documented by their releases.
No Doubt
released their self-titled debut on Interscope in 1992, an independently
produced collectors item called The Beacon Street Collection
in 1995, and Tragic Kingdom on Trauma/Interscope in I996.
"We
were labeled a ska band forever and it was always something
we were trying to get away from. We wanted to become our own
sound. For the first time on this record I think we were able
to do that to mix up all the different influences without freaking
people out."
Stefani need
not have worried. America has latched on to No Doubts
brand of vibrant, tuneful rock, with Stefanis smoothly
intriguing show-tune vocals dancing in and out of a catchy stew
of varied bass lines and guitar riffs. No Doubt is easily the
band of the moment, and this fact is not lost on its members.
"Were
just so happy that people even want to take notice of us after
all these years," says Kanal. "We went to New York
to do MTV and we were there on the set and Gwen and I just looked
at each other and said, I cant believe were
doing this right now. I cant believe were here.
Its really incredible."
And then
theres the flip side: "Its weird. [Were
playing for] a lot of new people that arent used to coming
to [our] shows. Its a different vibe. Its not as
fun as it used to be," says Dumont, who promoted a well
respected club for a short while and is known by Orange County
musicians as a strong supporter of the eclectic local scene.
"I dont know, it just seems like [these new people]
dont know what to do, they dont get it."
The "it"
to which Dumont refers is No Doubts roots as an underground
band, a grounding all members want to maintain. "Its
like we come from a scene, a local Southern California scene
where we play all-ages shows and theyre kind of punk and
ska audiences. You know people go to the shows and just go nuts
and have fun and dance and crowd surf and its a very physical,
energetic kind of show," explains Dumont.
But despite
the gripes, "This is something Ive wanted for so
many years now and I never really thought it would happen. Its
like a dream come true to hear my songs on the radio. I know
that the music industry and people that listen to music these
days are pretty fickle and this may be our one hit wonder and
it may be gone tomorrow, but were going to have a lot
of fun in the meantime. 99% of musicians, whether they are telling
the truth or not, want to make a living playing music. Its
not about selling out. Its about having a little fun for
awhile and not having to work another job and getting to play
music all day long, every day. Its really satisfying."
This spectrum
seems little more than the varied emotions of a band in flux,
making the transition from local underground heroes to national
entertainers. All the members are thrilled to be receiving attention,
yet they talk as if it might evaporate tomorrow. They all remain
loyal to the local scene which housed them for so many years.
And they all attempt to make sense of the incongruous blending
of art and commerce, worrying about being perceived as "sell-outs."
Kanal admits
concern over how fans would react to their decision to tour
in a tour bus, as opposed to the vans they always used in the
past, despite inconvenience and issues of safety. Hes
well aware of the distorting powers of fame.
"I think
for the most part were pretty nice people. I check myself
every day just to make sure this is the same person. I really
want people to tell me if they think anything has changed about
me. I think about that stuff all the time," says Kanal,
who is a few credits short of receiving a degree in psychology.
Dumont harbors
the same concerns. "I havent been able to hang out
with my friends much anymore because Im so busy. I wonder
if they are like, Toms too cool for us now.
They dont understand that theres a lot of responsibilities
and were busy constantly, all day long."
Stefani talks
of the girls who approached her at a recent show, feeling betrayed,
and worrying that now "jocks and nerds" would be audience
members. "I totally understand that, because I had a band
that was my band Madness and in some ways I wanted
to wear the shirt and tell everyone that they were my band but
I didnt want other people to really get into them, so
I can understand that. But at the same time I think a lot of
people are really happy for us."
The genuine
excitement the group feels is more poignant when coming on the
heals of No Doubts "Bleak Period", referred
to by all members in grand, sweeping, epic terms.
"If
you would have seen us last year," Stefani begins, "we
were barely hanging on by a thread. We were ready to quit and
save ourselves from becoming a bunch of losers."
These hard
times centered around, according to Stefani, "political
stuff with our label. The biggest problem was we werent
able to put out music and it was like three years between records.
I remember the first year the band came together it seemed like
so much had gotten done and the last three years it was like
nothing happened. Thats why we put out The Beacon Street
Collection, which is the CD we did in our garage. It was one
of the best things we ever did because we were able to take
some songs that would have probably gotten lost and document
them. But this was awesome because at the very end, when we
were mixing our album, we hooked up with these guys from Trauma,
which happens to be a subsidiary of Interscope, so now its
kind of neat because we have Interscope and Trauma working for
us. Everything has turned around. Its flip-flopped. Its
unbelievable how fast it has changed, so were just trying
to take every day and just enjoy it because we know it could
be gone at any second."
But in the
process, No Doubt lost a member keyboard player Eric Stefani.
"Eric was my biggest musical influence," says Gwen.
"Hes the one that said you be the singer
when I was sitting on the couch watching the Brady Bunch and
being as lazy as possible. So if it wasnt for him, I dont
know what I would be doing. It was really hard when he left
because I felt like this was his baby his band. For me to take
over was really weird and awkward, but at the same time it was
a long time coming. He taught us how to write songs and we took
it from there. In a lot of ways this record has so much more
meaning to me than the first one because I was really able to
participate, whereas on the first record I was singing songs
about my brother getting his wisdom teeth pulled."
There are
many connections between this latest record and the "Bleak
Period". The albums title is a pun on Anaheims
own Disneyland (referred to as the "Magic Kingdom"),
but the album is mostly about the anything-but-magical hardships
faced by No Doubt. The break-up of Kanal and Stefanis
seven year relationship inspired many of the songs.
"You
can imagine all the things that come with being in a band with
your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. Its odd. We just deal
with it every day," Kanal reveals. "Were still
really good friends. We were best friends when we were going
out and Gwen is really, really important to me."
Stefani holds
similar feelings. "I think weve just been really
blessed that we can remain good friends. I love him so much."
"Ive
always thought of myself as being a really normal person, with
the most normal life, with a mom and dad and sisters and brothers
and a totally normal personality with nothing exciting about
it and then I step back and look at my situation and all the,
like," Stefani pauses, measuring her words. "How can
I say shit thats going on and I realize I am in the weirdest
incestuous situation. Its a weird life that I have been
thrown into, but at the same time I cant remember a time
that Ive been happier. Things are so great right now and
Im really enjoying my life, every second of it."
The music
business is a weird industry. The methods of achieving success
are outwardly shunned and denounced, though secretly sought
after. No Doubt are achieving the kind of success every other
band, whether they would admit to it or not, secretly hope for.
After nine years ripe with the good and the bad, No Doubt refuse
to play the game. "Its funny, because at least now
were not like total losers," says Stefani. "We
had a video on MTV and got to be on the radio and stuff. If
it was taken away tomorrow, we at least got to do that. Now
we have stuff to show our grandkids."
"Just
a Girl", from No Doubts third album, Tragic Kingdom,
is a catchy new-wave flavored song that proclaims the burdens
of the fairer sex, using the stereotype to point out its own
flaws: "Cause Im just a girl, little ol me/
Dont let me out of your sight/ Im just a girl, all
pretty and petite/ So dont let me have any rights/ Oh...
Ive had it up to here!" The song which by now youve
definitely heard on the radio and which was never meant to be
more than a reflection of Stefanis own frustrating experiences
(such as her fathers concern over her driving to ex-boyfriend
Kanals house late at night), rises to anthem-like proportions
when performed live. Stefani, all pouts, poses, and kicks, leads
the audience in a celebration of girl-hood, and if only for
a little while, the typical foundation on which rock music stands
begins to crumble.
So who is
the real Stefani? Is she the creation strutting about on-stage
speaking in the little girl voice and basking in the sensation
of thousands of eyes washing over her lithe frame? Or is she
the earnest, soft spoken family girl who, according to her younger
sister Jill, "was always giving really good advice about
guys and about friends and about the superficiality of it all"?
"I think
Ive been able to fool a lot of people because I know Im
a dork. Im a geek," says Stefani, giving hope to
geeks nationwide.
"I think
[the on-stage persona] is definitely a part of me, but I dont
think that I go around when Im offstage saying Fuck
you, Im a girl and running all over the place. Its
definitely two sides of my personality."
One wonders
how Stefani manages to keep her energy at such a feverish pitch,
night after night.
"Yesterday
I looked in the mirror and I thought, God, I look so old
today. I look so tired. So I just put on tons of make-up
and screamed up and down the hall to try to get myself worked
up and then I went out there and the audience was so intense
theres just no way you couldnt feed off that. These
kids were just on fire. They looked like a bunch of Rice Krispies!"
No Doubt
formed nine years ago in Anaheim, California, at the suggestion
of high school friend John Spence, a charismatic kid who was
in love with the idea of being in a band and whose subsequent
suicide forced No Doubt to learn to overcome hardship. The initial
line-up included Stefanis older brother Eric on keyboards
(who was to remain in the band as keyboard player and main songwriter
until 95 when he left to pursue a career as an artist),
and Gwen and Spence sharing vocals.
"I never
really thought about being in a band. I mean, maybe when I watched
Donny and Marie I thought, God, I wish I could be Marie,
but that was the closest Id come. John was the one that
said I want to be the singer of a band. That was
his dream," remembers Stefani, whose personal heroes include
Angelo Moore of Fishbone and Kermit the Frog.
"When
your friend dies like that and its so unexpected its
very traumatic. I think it taught us all a big lesson in how
much one person can influence so many different people."
The early
music of No Doubt was "ska, because thats what we
were into and thats the only thing we really knew. It
was pretty easy music to play." But as the line-up began
to solidify, with "Prince fan" Kanal joining almost
immediately, followed by heavy metal guitarist Dumont in 88
and drummer Young in 89, the wide range of styles encompassed
by No Doubt began to emerge, as documented by their releases.
No Doubt
released their self-titled debut on Interscope in 1992, an independently
produced collectors item called The Beacon Street Collection
in 1995, and Tragic Kingdom on Trauma/Interscope in I996.
"We
were labeled a ska band forever and it was always something
we were trying to get away from. We wanted to become our own
sound. For the first time on this record I think we were able
to do that to mix up all the different influences without freaking
people out."
Stefani need
not have worried. America has latched on to No Doubts
brand of vibrant, tuneful rock, with Stefanis smoothly
intriguing show-tune vocals dancing in and out of a catchy stew
of varied bass lines and guitar riffs. No Doubt is easily the
band of the moment, and this fact is not lost on its members.
"Were
just so happy that people even want to take notice of us after
all these years," says Kanal. "We went to New York
to do MTV and we were there on the set and Gwen and I just looked
at each other and said, I cant believe were
doing this right now. I cant believe were here.
Its really incredible."
And then
theres the flip side: "Its weird. [Were
playing for] a lot of new people that arent used to coming
to [our] shows. Its a different vibe. Its not as
fun as it used to be," says Dumont, who promoted a well
respected club for a short while and is known by Orange County
musicians as a strong supporter of the eclectic local scene.
"I dont know, it just seems like [these new people]
dont know what to do, they dont get it."
The "it"
to which Dumont refers is No Doubts roots as an underground
band, a grounding all members want to maintain. "Its
like we come from a scene, a local Southern California scene
where we play all-ages shows and theyre kind of punk and
ska audiences. You know people go to the shows and just go nuts
and have fun and dance and crowd surf and its a very physical,
energetic kind of show," explains Dumont.
But despite
the gripes, "This is something Ive wanted for so
many years now and I never really thought it would happen. Its
like a dream come true to hear my songs on the radio. I know
that the music industry and people that listen to music these
days are pretty fickle and this may be our one hit wonder and
it may be gone tomorrow, but were going to have a lot
of fun in the meantime. 99% of musicians, whether they are telling
the truth or not, want to make a living playing music. Its
not about selling out. Its about having a little fun for
awhile and not having to work another job and getting to play
music all day long, every day. Its really satisfying."
This spectrum
seems little more than the varied emotions of a band in flux,
making the transition from local underground heroes to national
entertainers. All the members are thrilled to be receiving attention,
yet they talk as if it might evaporate tomorrow. They all remain
loyal to the local scene which housed them for so many years.
And they all attempt to make sense of the incongruous blending
of art and commerce, worrying about being perceived as "sell-outs."
Kanal admits
concern over how fans would react to their decision to tour
in a tour bus, as opposed to the vans they always used in the
past, despite inconvenience and issues of safety. Hes
well aware of the distorting powers of fame.
"I think
for the most part were pretty nice people. I check myself
every day just to make sure this is the same person. I really
want people to tell me if they think anything has changed about
me. I think about that stuff all the time," says Kanal,
who is a few credits short of receiving a degree in psychology.
Dumont harbors
the same concerns. "I havent been able to hang out
with my friends much anymore because Im so busy. I wonder
if they are like, Toms too cool for us now.
They dont understand that theres a lot of responsibilities
and were busy constantly, all day long."
Stefani talks
of the girls who approached her at a recent show, feeling betrayed,
and worrying that now "jocks and nerds" would be audience
members. "I totally understand that, because I had a band
that was my band Madness and in some ways I wanted
to wear the shirt and tell everyone that they were my band but
I didnt want other people to really get into them, so
I can understand that. But at the same time I think a lot of
people are really happy for us."
The genuine
excitement the group feels is more poignant when coming on the
heals of No Doubts "Bleak Period", referred
to by all members in grand, sweeping, epic terms.
"If
you would have seen us last year," Stefani begins, "we
were barely hanging on by a thread. We were ready to quit and
save ourselves from becoming a bunch of losers."
These hard
times centered around, according to Stefani, "political
stuff with our label. The biggest problem was we werent
able to put out music and it was like three years between records.
I remember the first year the band came together it seemed like
so much had gotten done and the last three years it was like
nothing happened. Thats why we put out The Beacon Street
Collection, which is the CD we did in our garage. It was one
of the best things we ever did because we were able to take
some songs that would have probably gotten lost and document
them. But this was awesome because at the very end, when we
were mixing our album, we hooked up with these guys from Trauma,
which happens to be a subsidiary of Interscope, so now its
kind of neat because we have Interscope and Trauma working for
us. Everything has turned around. Its flip-flopped. Its
unbelievable how fast it has changed, so were just trying
to take every day and just enjoy it because we know it could
be gone at any second."
But in the
process, No Doubt lost a member keyboard player Eric Stefani.
"Eric was my biggest musical influence," says Gwen.
"Hes the one that said you be the singer
when I was sitting on the couch watching the Brady Bunch and
being as lazy as possible. So if it wasnt for him, I dont
know what I would be doing. It was really hard when he left
because I felt like this was his baby his band. For me to take
over was really weird and awkward, but at the same time it was
a long time coming. He taught us how to write songs and we took
it from there. In a lot of ways this record has so much more
meaning to me than the first one because I was really able to
participate, whereas on the first record I was singing songs
about my brother getting his wisdom teeth pulled."
There are
many connections between this latest record and the "Bleak
Period". The albums title is a pun on Anaheims
own Disneyland (referred to as the "Magic Kingdom"),
but the album is mostly about the anything-but-magical hardships
faced by No Doubt. The break-up of Kanal and Stefanis
seven year relationship inspired many of the songs.
"You
can imagine all the things that come with being in a band with
your ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend. Its odd. We just deal
with it every day," Kanal reveals. "Were still
really good friends. We were best friends when we were going
out and Gwen is really, really important to me."
Stefani holds
similar feelings. "I think weve just been really
blessed that we can remain good friends. I love him so much."
"Ive
always thought of myself as being a really normal person, with
the most normal life, with a mom and dad and sisters and brothers
and a totally normal personality with nothing exciting about
it and then I step back and look at my situation and all the,
like," Stefani pauses, measuring her words. "How can
I say shit thats going on and I realize I am in the weirdest
incestuous situation. Its a weird life that I have been
thrown into, but at the same time I cant remember a time
that Ive been happier. Things are so great right now and
Im really enjoying my life, every second of it."
The music
business is a weird industry. The methods of achieving success
are outwardly shunned and denounced, though secretly sought
after. No Doubt are achieving the kind of success every other
band, whether they would admit to it or not, secretly hope for.
After nine years ripe with the good and the bad, No Doubt refuse
to play the game. "Its funny, because at least now
were not like total losers," says Stefani. "We
had a video on MTV and got to be on the radio and stuff. If
it was taken away tomorrow, we at least got to do that. Now
we have stuff to show our grandkids."
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